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• Macular Degeneration treatment
• Posted: 2007-10-09 01:29:38 By george n
• has anyone been treated by dr. alston lundgren MD "santa fe protocol" - reversing the effect of Macular degeneration or know anyone who has been treated by dr. lundgren.
  
  thanks
  

• Re: Macular Degeneration treatment
• Posted: 2007-10-14 11:00:43 By Walt R
• No, but I am interested.
  
  Looks like I have AMD in one eye....distortion easy to notice....REtina specialist upcoming.
  I am discouraged. I thought there were "treatment", but it seems not.
  
  So much for tennis.
  
  Walt

• Re: Macular Degeneration treatment
• Posted: 2007-10-14 11:01:42 By Walt R
• No, but I am interested.
  
  Looks like I have AMD in one eye....distortion easy to notice....REtina specialist upcoming.
  I am discouraged. I thought there were "treatment", but it seems not.
  
  So much for tennis.
  
  Walt

• Re: Macular Degeneration treatment
• Posted: 2007-10-30 20:52:00 By russ r
• george n
  
  Itoo am interested in Dr. Lundgren's treatment. I have his video, and several of the papers from his web site. Have you heard from any other members about their experiences?

• Re: Re: Macular Degeneration treatment
• Posted: 2007-11-10 20:11:03 By george n
• no i have not heard of anyone using his treatment

• Re: Macular Degeneration treatment
• Posted: 2007-11-09 13:42:56 By Shirley B
• Do you know if that treatment is also for "wet" type Maculare degeneration???

• Re: Re: Macular Degeneration treatment
• Posted: 2007-11-10 20:12:28 By george n
• no i have no idea other than what i read on the web page. so far i have not heard from anyone who has actually gone through the treatment

• Re: Re: Macular Degeneration treatment
• Posted: 2007-11-10 20:12:33 By george n
• no i have no idea other than what i read on the web page. so far i have not heard from anyone who has actually gone through the treatment

• Re: Re: Macular Degeneration treatment
• Posted: 2007-11-10 20:12:38 By george n
• no i have no idea other than what i read on the web page. so far i have not heard from anyone who has actually gone through the treatment

• Re: Re: Macular Degeneration treatment
• Posted: 2007-11-11 15:33:56 By Gretchen K
• Shirley B:
  
  Yes, the treatment is for both "wet" and "dry" Macular Degeneration.
  
  

• Re: Macular Degeneration treatment
• Posted: 2007-11-10 21:05:57 By Gretchen K
• It was a friend of mine who was Dr. Lundgren's "guinea pig" as he developed his Macular Degeneration treatment protocol. She went for an appointment with him weekly for a year (though by now, he has refined his protocol, so only a few appointments are necessary, from what I understand). In the beginning, she was legally blind, and had been so for years. Her conditon was advanced. By the time she ended her treatments, she could read (though with some difficulty) and go to the movies. The results of the treatment revolutionized her life. She remained a devoted patient of Dr. Lundgren's for years, until her recent death from colon cancer. Dr. Lundgren treated her weekly for chronic pain until she died, bringing his treatment gear to her assisted living center, and to her intensive care unit. That's the kind of guy he is. He's dedicated to seeing that his clients get the results they want, and to alleviating suffering.
  
  Since one component of the treatment involves placing small needles just beyond the outer edge of the eye sockets, some temporary bruising may occur. (It's a delicate area. The needles themselves don't hurt, though.) A little occasional bruising is a small price to pay for regaining one's sight.
  
  Dr. Lundgren has said that it is easier to treat Macular Degeneration if one catches it in the first few years. The more advanced the condition, the longer it takes to get the results you want. But most patients see some improvement after the first couple of treatments. And this could be outdated information; by now he has probably refined the protocol to get better, faster results. It's been about 3 years since I last discussed it with him.
  
  I suggest you call Dr. Lundgren's office to find out more. Just last week he moved to a larger office, where he has specialized staff who do eye exams. The office phone is: 505/986-0910.
  
  Good luck. Have faith. Persevere.

• Re: Re: Macular Degeneration treatment
• Posted: 2007-11-10 21:19:28 By russ r
• Gretchen K
  
  Thanks for your reply. First one I've had about Dr. Lundgren's treatments. Great story about your friend who was able to return to a visual life. Several other doctors claim to have success with similar acupuncture/electric current stimulation. I've tried one for his treatments in the Chicago area, but having some problems with blurry vision. did your friend have similar early results with Dr. Lundgren?
  
  

• Re: Re: Re: Macular Degeneration treatment
• Posted: 2007-11-11 15:26:09 By Gretchen K
• Since Dr. Lundgren was only in the process of developing his protocol when my friend went to see him, progress was slow, and she did have blurry vision for a while,(her vision was extremely blurry before she even began the treatment: trees were big tall blurs, people were smaller, moving blurs), but there were gradual improvements in the blurriness. Whoever is treating you may be using some version of the Lundgren protocol, since he pioneered it and has published it for other practioners to use. He developed it after learning one of the basic components from a Chinese master doctor in eye treatment. Dr. Lundgren's approach is: if you don't see any improvement at all over several sessions, he doesn't charge you. In your case, I'd say that if you give it a good try, and after 4-5 sessions you haven't noticed any improvement (the doc you're working with should have eye tests so you and he can precisely track progress at each session), then try someone else. I can ask Dr. Lundgren how many treatments his out-of-state clients usually require, and how soon they start to see improvement. How long have you had macular degeneration? How bad is your vision? This makes a difference.
  
  It's important to get a simple eye test at the beginning of each treatment, to see if there's been even the slightest improvement since the previous treatment. The test could reveal a degree of improvement that the patient might not notice. There are, after all, infinite degrees of blurriness.
  
  Someone on this message board asked whether the treatment worked for both "wet" or "dry" versions of the condition. Lundgren has had equal success treating both.
  
  I'm glad people are getting more open-minded about this treatment. I have a dear friend here in Santa Fe, whose Macular Degeneration was in the beginning stages when Lundgren had his first success with the protocol, and I also have an aunt in Calif. with Macular, but both have chosen not to get the treatment! This mentality is hard for me to fathom. Especially regarding someone living right here in Santa Fe. Granted, you have to be a bit fearless to agree to be needled around the eyes on a regular basis, but there's so much to be gained from doing so! Might there be some fear of disappointment behind this reticence? I believe Ludgren's success rate is 85%. Meaning, 85% of patients experience at least SOME improvment. Not all may progress to the point of being able to drive. (There are no guarantees, except that you won't be charged if you experience no improvement.) Note: undergoing a major surgery at any point after completion of treatment can roll back the vision improvement.
  
  I hope I've been helpful.
  
  GK
  
  
  
  

• Re: Re: Re: Re: Macular Degeneration treatment
• Posted: 2007-11-11 17:30:48 By russ r
• Gretchen K
  Lundgren prefers 5 treatments in a row for out of towners, in five successive days. He only checks acuity after the fourth day.
  My macular degeneration/dry, was diagnosed first in Feb. 06. Called 'mild', but that is confused somewhat by a severe condition of vitreous veils and floaters. My vision in the bad eye is 20/40 and the good eye, 20/20. But desperation has set in because of the constant problems with moving debris in the eye. I see that movement when my eye is closed as well as open. My history also includes using the Microcurrent stimulation, MCS, for about 7 weeks. The vitreous problem increased, and the doctor (md) told me to stop. I'm a little hesitant about electrical stimulation as a result, particularly since the guy I saw goes beyond the power limits of the MCS, and I gather, so does Lundgren.
  anything else you can provide from your contacts would be appreciated. I do agree with you that your relatives should consider any non-FDA treatment because otherwise there is nothing out there to help. And I mean nothing. I've researched plenty.
  Russ R.